From aurium at gmail.com  Mon Sep 27 14:38:48 2010
From: aurium at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lio_A=2E_Heckert?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:38:48 -0300
Subject: [Lombard] New at Lombard hacking
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Hi all,

I'm Aur?lio A. Heckert (aka Aurium), a brazilian FLOSS
developer.

I'm now researching for easy media editors, and more
specifically for video editors, to be used by professors
in a near future.

I like the Lombard, and i have compiled it 5 minutes ago. :-)

What you think about this idea? May i go ahead?
Did you want a help? I'm a script programmer (Perl,
Python, Ruby, ECMAScript,...), but we may try. :-)

Best Wishes!

-- 
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From adam at yorba.org  Mon Sep 27 15:55:40 2010
From: adam at yorba.org (Adam Dingle)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:55:40 -0700
Subject: [Lombard] New at Lombard hacking
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  Aur?lio,

I'm glad you like Lombard!

As you probably know, Lombard is written in Vala.  So if you want to 
help out with the Lombard code you'll need to learn Vala.  There are 
some resources to get you started on the Vala web page at 
http://live.gnome.org/Vala .

A good way to get started would be to work on some small bug or feature 
that you care about.  See the Lombard bug/feature list at 
http://trac.yorba.org/report/18 .  We don't have much developer 
documentation today, but are happy to answer any questions you may have 
here.  Thanks again -

adam

On 09/27/2010 02:38 PM, Aur?lio A. Heckert wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm Aur?lio A. Heckert (aka Aurium), a brazilian FLOSS
> developer.
>
> I'm now researching for easy media editors, and more
> specifically for video editors, to be used by professors
> in a near future.
>
> I like the Lombard, and i have compiled it 5 minutes ago. :-)
>
> What you think about this idea? May i go ahead?
> Did you want a help? I'm a script programmer (Perl,
> Python, Ruby, ECMAScript,...), but we may try. :-)
>
> Best Wishes!
>



From aurium at gmail.com  Wed Sep 29 14:06:44 2010
From: aurium at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lio_A=2E_Heckert?=)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:06:44 -0300
Subject: [Lombard] New at Lombard hacking
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Adam Dingle <adam at yorba.org> wrote:
> ?Aur?lio,
>
> I'm glad you like Lombard!
>
> As you probably know, Lombard is written in Vala. ?So if you want to
> help out with the Lombard code you'll need to learn Vala. ?There are
> some resources to get you started on the Vala web page at
> http://live.gnome.org/Vala .

Yes i see that. :-)
As i'm trying to start some core collaboration to Inkscape in C++
i may try Vala to Lombard some day. :-)

> A good way to get started would be to work on some small bug or
> feature that you care about. ?See the Lombard bug/feature list at
> http://trac.yorba.org/report/18 . ?We don't have much developer
> documentation today, but are happy to answer any questions you may
> have here. ?Thanks again -

Ok. Will more easy to define what to do after test all that i need. :-)

On Inkscape i collaborate with python extensions (this are like plugins).
The Lombard has this feature? If not, what you think a plugin must be
able to do? How that may work? Did you know the Inkscape extension
system to we compare?

Thanks Adam!

--
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Coop. de Tecnologias Livres: http://Colivre.coop.br
? ?? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
GNU/Linux User #312507? http://counter.li.org
Ilustra??o Vetorial Livre: http://InkscapeBrasil.org
? ?? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
? "Windows 7: a new era of restrictions."
?? http://windows7sins.org

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From adam at yorba.org  Thu Sep 30 07:49:47 2010
From: adam at yorba.org (Adam Dingle)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 07:49:47 -0700
Subject: [Lombard] New at Lombard hacking
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  Aurelio,

On 09/29/2010 02:06 PM, Aur?lio A. Heckert wrote:
>
> On Inkscape i collaborate with python extensions (this are like plugins).
> The Lombard has this feature?

No - Lombard has no plugin extension mechanism at this time.  If you 
want to contribute to Lombard, you'll need to write code in Vala.

> If not, what you think a plugin must be able to do? How that may work?

I don't understand what you're asking - are you suggesting that we add 
an extension mechanism to Lombard, and asking how that should work?

> Did you know the Inkscape extension system to we compare?

I'm not personally familiar with Inkscape's extension system.  I am 
familiar with gedit's plugin system, which also allows plugins to be 
written either in C++ or Python.  If we add plugins to Lombard someday 
we'll probably model them after the gedit system, though I think that is 
unlikely to happen in the near future.

cheers
adam



From aurium at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 09:30:15 2010
From: aurium at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lio_A=2E_Heckert?=)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:30:15 -0300
Subject: [Lombard] New at Lombard hacking
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Adam Dingle <adam at yorba.org> wrote:
> On 09/29/2010 02:06 PM, Aur?lio A. Heckert wrote:
>> On Inkscape i collaborate with python extensions (this are like plugins).
>> The Lombard has this feature?
> (...)
>> If not, what you think a plugin must be able to do? How that may work?
>
> I don't understand what you're asking - are you suggesting that we add
> an extension mechanism to Lombard, and asking how that should work?

Yes, i think that a plugin system is a great way add features easily and
to start the collaboration with some project.

As i'm not skilled with Lombard, i can't give the real good ideas about
how a Lombard plugin must work, but i think i may help, also in the
Vala implementation. :-)

So, How that may work? The pugin may by a independent processes
receiving some files and parameters, or that must access the internal
Lombard API directly? That may change the interface or not?
(-- add more questions here --)

>> Did you know the Inkscape extension system to we compare?
>
> I'm not personally familiar with Inkscape's extension system. ?I am
> familiar with gedit's plugin system, which also allows plugins to be
> written either in C++ or Python. ?If we add plugins to Lombard someday
> we'll probably model them after the gedit system, though I think that is
> unlikely to happen in the near future.

I think the gedit's plugin system may be more interesting for Lombard,
but the Inkscape and Lives (a VJ software) extension system makes
the extension totally independent from the main process. That only
receive the editing file, the user selection and the specific extension
parameters. The specific extension parameters are defined on a simple
XML to allow the Inkscape and Lives to crate a dialog window asking
to the user to fill or select the parameters.

That way is very simple to implement, is simple to start the plugin
creation, is also transparent to the user, but we can't change the
interface and can't access the internal API, so there is some double
work to make the extension do what the Inkscape already do (like to
move things or to union elements).

Well... Somethings to think about. :-)

> cheers
> adam

Cheers!

-- 
Aur?lio A. Heckert? http://SoftwareLivre.org/aurium
Coop. de Tecnologias Livres: http://Colivre.coop.br
? ?? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
GNU/Linux User #312507? http://counter.li.org
Ilustra??o Vetorial Livre: http://InkscapeBrasil.org
? ?? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
? "Windows 7: a new era of restrictions."
?? http://windows7sins.org

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