[Shotwell] feature wish: sub-events ?
pt at traversin.org
Sat Jun 16 09:21:26 PDT 2012
On 16 June 2012 16:16, Lucas B. Cohen <lbc at bnrlabs.com> wrote:
> Have some of you sometimes felt the need for sorting your pictures in a
> more organized way than the "month - event" model allows for ?
> Do other users agree or disagree ?
I agree, but I disagree on the need of an «event» category altogether.
Since we have hierarchical tags, there is no need for having «events»
as a separate instance anymore.
My user-case is the following:
I have a top-level tag called 'event' and inside that one I have
sub-categories, like 'birthday', 'wedding', 'concert', and so on, and
again sub-categories for the specific event.
I really can't understand why events are now bound to the time line,
that is a completely different thing. I mean, having a time line is
important, but the events are nothing but «tags», and using tags we
will have a few big advantages:
1. the tags are written in the picture metadata, unlike the events;
2. there are lots of reoccurring 'events' (birthdays, holiday trips,
meetings) for whom the shotwell «events» just don't work.
3. an event can be 'inside' an other event (e.g. 'Volunteering in
Australia 2009' / 'Uluru trip') or can be an intersection of one or
more events (e.g. 'Australia 2009' / '3-months trip with my friend
that started in Australia and ended in New Zealand' / 'Volunteering in
New Zealand 2010')
I hope the picture is clear.
Events -- like they are organized now -- are equivalent to «folders»
in your file-system. Even with sub-events, they will be just like
folders and sub-folders. One of the reasons people started putting
tags into their pictures is that the whole organization is far more
easy using tags as opposed to directories.
For the same reason, we see everyday more and more applications using
tags (Firefox uses them in the bookmarks, Gnome for searching through
files, apt for software packages, and so on.)
There is a nice comment in the hierarchical tags ticket that explains
things better: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/1401#note-13
Anyway, my proposal is:
- split the time line from the events, or at least drop the «events»
name and use «time line» or something similar (they are two very
- if people really thinks that having a separate events structure is
useful, let's keep the existing interface, but be sure the events get
written along the keywords into the photos metadata, with hierarchical
structure and everything.
Last year I checked the Metadata Working Group guide lines [here:
here: http://www.metadataworkinggroup.org/specs/] and as far as I know
there was not a standard nor a proposed tag for something like events,
only for more generic 'collections'.
My two Euro-cents -- before they disappear, that is ;-)
GNU/Linux user 190604
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